what are some good books on dog behavior and training?
Question by dobiz_rule: what are some good books on dog behavior and training?
not the modern training crap, but old school … no clicker training either please.
Thanks Curtis,
as per my trainer recommendation, currently my pup is not really obedience training at all. the only thing he knows is sits, watch, and platz and we do this with treats, praise, no corrections. I want some books for future references more than for something i am going to implement right now. the pup is 6.5 month. i never give a command unless i am 100% sure he will do it. I haven’t had any need to work on recall etc. He pulls me on the leash (while wearing a prong) and has not been taught to out. I do work on heel sometimes if he is already walking in a heel and starting at me (to get a toy).
i hate the clicker, i did it with my girl and i really find it annoying. I don’t think there is anything wrong with it, i personally can’t stand it though.
thinking about it, i guess i am never 100% sure he will do the command, so i would say the command is given when he is paying attention and wants something from me (attention, food, toy, etc)
nope i don’t want modern, i don’t want to be a walking treat machine for my dog.
Best answer:
Answer by UHaveToBeKiddingMe
Good for you!
THE BOOK for real dog training is
The Koehler Method of Dog Training
The Koehler Method of Open Obedience for the Ring and Field
The Koehler Method of Utility Dog Training
http://www.koehlerdogtraining.com
Tried and true method that trains a dogs mind and not its stomach.
About William Koehler
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From the I.C.A.P. Hall of fame-
William R. (Bill) Koehler dog trainer
A teacher, trainer and author who worked as the Chief Trainer for Walt Disney Studios for more than 20 years, Bill still managed to find the time to write six books and act as Chief Trainer for the Orange Empire Dog Club. His list of accomplishments in the field of dog training are too numerous to list here. It is worthwhile to note that his Koehler Method of Guard Dog Training was named Best Dog Book for the Year of 1967 by the Dog Writers’ Association of America.
Of interest is the method of dog training he developed over the course of many years. The Koehler Method of Dog Training has been praised, championed, vilified and in some cases damned. When you excel you are actually sticking your head up high enough to get shot. Only if you are truly excellent will the shots all miss and leave you standing straight and tall above the masses. That was Bill Koehler. Quiet, unassuming, soft spoken and gentle of hand, Bill gave us a way to train dogs while at the same time honoring their very dog-ness. The Koehler Method of Dog Training is just as valid and useful in the Twenty-first century as it was in the Twentieth century and we suspect it will continue to have just as much meaning for as long as we have dogs to train.
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Are you kidding? The Dog Whisperer. Hopefully you don’t believe that is crap.
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Why so against clicker training? kidding lol
Koehler books….you can find them on amazon.com
1. its me or the dog
that book teaches you all the basics how you can have a better family pet how to connect with your dog its a great read as well as a book with great tips and training methods.
its easy to read very understandable has pictures too.
Definitely Koehler – all books.
On week three with my dog and she’s NEVER been so attentive to me. And best thing, she’s paying attention to ME and not a piece of chicken in my hand! ^_^
Dog Whisperer Cesar Milan has some good books out as well – maybe not totally “old school” but not clicker work either.
Brenda Aloff has some good illustrated books on behavior and body language.
You’re training a Dobie for Schutzhund work right? You better get familiar with clicker training fast. Koehler methods are going to ruin a Dobie, the “good” ones aren’t half as hard as the Dobies of Koehler’s day, Dobies need to be brought on easy or you’ll suppress drive. Working a Dobie is like working a French Malinois, unless it has through the roof prey drive, it will shut down with hard corrections.
I’m clicker training my 12 week old pup for Mondioring. He already sits, downs, and stands correctly without moving his front feet. He outs, he’s working on leg bites, he just started to bark and hold. Clicker training/Marker training is THE way to train a dog. YES I use corrections too BUT that comes later in training when the dog is mature and blatantly refuses to obey a command. Correcting a puppy for other than biting you, not coming to you, or refusing to obey the “Leave it” command is going to lessen his working drive. The more positive you make puppy training the more drive that pup will maintain into adulthood.
-edit- You’re off to a good start but the beauty of marker/clicker training is you can do obedience at a super early age because it’s 0 pressure 0 stress. Since the pup fully understands commands by the time it’s mature enough in it’s work to take corrections? You rarely have to give them! It’s a lot easier and cleaner when you do a no stress out on a puppy than to wait and choke it off a bite as an adult.
Both the Monks of New Skete and the Koehler books were recommended to me, and I found them both very interesting reads.
Not modern training crap eh? So you don’t want books that are actually based on proven, established behavioural theory? Books written by experts in behaviour and training? You don’t want methods that have to proven to be the most effective, safe and humane?
I asume you mean you do want yank and stomp methods, based on disproven outdated theories and old wives tales? Methods that may or may not work, that have a high risk of physical or psychological damage, and could destroy your relationship with your dog?
Of course, you don’t have to use clicker training – but as it makes training much easier and more rewarding for the dog, meaning you can train the faster, more easily and more reliably, I don’t understand why you would outright refuse to consider it.
Good books on behaviour and training:
Think Dog (by John Fisher)
Handbook of applied dog behaviour and training (ed Voith and Lindsay)
Other end of the leash (P McConnell)
Before and after getting your puppy (Ian Dunbar)
The perfect puppy (Gwen Bailey)
Dogwise (John Fisher)
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